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Still Andrew (I guess) @ajroach42

The worst part about self hosting tools for collaboration and communication is identity management.

hundo p without a doubt.
even if you take out the collaborative aspect, identity remains a pain point -- on multiple levels.

I don’t want to maintain your account. I just want to validate that you have an account.

But there is not an account provider I trust.

So I guess I’m back to email addresses and maintaining a password database.

@ajroach42 that's one reason I like OpenID so much. Sadly it got abandoned because it didn't keep silos. However there are still providers if that is an option.

So you don't trust account providers but you implicitly trust email providers?

And you trust SMTP over HTTPS.

I would strongly disagree if you asked me.

@x_cli no I don’t trust email providers! That’s part of the problem.

I don’t want accounts tied to email addresses. I don’t want identities tied to email addresses.

I just haven’t decided what to do about it.

@jalcine has shared some things about #IndieWeb that include identity management. I haven't had a chance to see what the scope is, but a quick profile surf should net you the search terms you need to find out even if you don't simple on a link

@AceNovo @ajroach42 it's hard. I wish I could expand but I gotta sleep lol

@AceNovo @ajroach42

I've been meaning to come back to this but yeah identity management is rough. it's a bit easier if you had a fixed address that you can refer to but if you're nomadic with no permanent address then it's tricky

There's an issue in one of the #CommonsPub repos referencing improving Oauth and looking to Indie web. I think it would be a good addition for solo instances and certain communities to be an authentication source with the caveat that instance managers may not want to turn it in for instances where there isn't some other connection between members