HP 150 - an HP with a touch screen, and an electronic roledex in 1983.
Also, they just put this guys phone number, area code and all, on blast right up on the screen.
This HP salesman is actually doing a good job selling a device with software well integrated to a touch screen.
And Gary follows up asking "do you foresee the touchscreen replacing the keyboard?" and he's kind of smug about how no one is going to re-write their software to interact with a touchscreen.
(I type, with an onscreen keyboard.)
And now the HP sales guy is going off on voice controlled computers, and everyone else just kind of side eyes him.
I'm really enjoying #computerchronicles
@ajroach42 yes there was quite a jumble...in that era, but MS made the deal by buying a cp/m like clone from a guy then quickly tweaked it and under cut everyone and made the deal with IBM to be the OS of thier new PC's. It was a OS that handled disk operations and had a command interpreter with a set group of commands and a basic programming language interpreter. Apple and others were already way ahead of IBM at that time
@ajroach42 Worked great. Ran a BBS on one for years. The MSDOS file tree is better than CP/M, but it looks and feels like MSDOS for the most part.
@Ricardus I know that CP/M was available on many different hardware architectures.
I'm assuming software would need to be cross compiled between systems, and there wasn't some kind of early VM?
@ajroach42 I've run CP/M emulators on MSDOS, but not a VM as we know them today. I think CP/M was mostly on Z80 machines.
@ajroach42 That video has a demo of Concurrent DOS, and I love how one of the other guests on the show says the multitasking OS brings no real value to the table because it's not really an app that does anything. And we're going to have to sell the general public on the idea of multitasking. 😃
@ajroach42 Gary Kildall and Digital Research (his company) also made a better, multi-tasking MSDOS clone that SHOULD have been what PC's shipped with in the 80s instead of MSDOS. The world would probably be a better place if it had happened. We would have traded Bill Gates for Gary, but Gary was a hippie and environmentalist type and probably a better guy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skri1h3Zjrw
@Ricardus Gary seems like a cool dude.
And DR DOS is pretty great.
IIRC, there was an antitrust lawsuit where microsoft was proven to have stolen some bits of DR DOS?
@ajroach42 I would say, if you want to try it properly, try the PC version, not the original Apple II version, for one specific reason: the Apple II version has a hackish workaround, around the fact that the Apple II originally didn't have up or down arrows on its keyboard. This can make things... confusing.
The PC version, you have FOUR arrow keys. Such luxury.
Also, it might help to start with an early version of 1-2-3, which shows you what the / menu options actually *do*.
@bhtooefr It was Toastytech where I originally read about the DRM. Glad to know that didn't doom the software to obscurity.
@ajroach42 DRM tends to work on business and educational software, too, so cracking it for preservation is of the highest priority.
AFAIK @email@example.com's Apple II cracking project started as a way to preserve games that had only been preserved in a tampered state (crack screens, missing content to fit into space constraints, and even sometimes partial cracks), but quickly focused on cracking stuff that had never been preserved.
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