@ajroach42 I'm unaware of a Classic Mac emulator for Palm OS. I know there's an Apple II emulator, but that's no help to you.

@electrotamitha If it can run II GS software, it might help.

I just need to access hypercard.

@ajroach42 Hm, this one supports iie

http://palmapple.sourceforge.net/

@electrotamitha unforuntately IIe doesn't support the software I need. I gotta have 16-bit.

Thanks, though. That gives me a good jumping off point.

@ajroach42 @electrotamitha Worth noting that HyperCard IIGS can't read HyperCard Mac stacks.

I don't believe there's a way to do what you want to do, partially because Palm screens just aren't big enough.

@ajroach42 @electrotamitha Or rather, there isn't a way that exists now. End-stage Palm OS devices have plenty of CPU and could scale things down somewhat cleanly, though.

@bhtooefr @electrotamitha I'll add it to my someday list.

@bhtooefr @electrotamitha Darn.

Ah well.

@ajroach42 this sort of computer kink is exactly what I've come to expect around here. Make sure any hardcore RS232 cable hacking is behind a cw... For the kids.

@ajroach42 Maybe somewhere in one of the repository sites linked to here?
http://rumkin.com/software/palm/
(the IArchive might be needed...)

@gaditb That looks neat, a little sparse, but I'm looking forward to exploring it.

@ajroach42 IIRC, it's what I used when I mained a Palm m500 in 2009-2011...

Of course, the sites still existed back then...

@ajroach42 There's PalmMAME, but I have no idea if it includes the Mac driver, and in which state: http://www.pocketdimension.com/PalmMAME.html

From the MESS/MAME wiki it should be possible to install up to MacOS 7.5.5 on the emulated IIcx, see http://mess.redump.net/howto/install_mac_system_6

@galaxis The fact that MAME can emulate Mac is kind of astounding on it's own.

I'm doubtful, but I'll explore it.

Thanks!

@ajroach42 It seems that Mac emulation wasn't added until way after PalmMAME (MAME 0.37b5 is from something like 2000?).

@galaxis Yeah, that was my expectation.

@ajroach42 @galaxis I almost wonder how much infrastructure Mini vMac needs to run, and whether porting it could work.

Although I'm sure the results would be horrific for HyperCard, you could even run a lower screen resolution to fit within the Palm screen natively...

@bhtooefr @galaxis I imagine it wouldn't actually be terribly complex, but beyond my current abilities, certainly.

@bhtooefr @ajroach42 Well, if you were really desperate, you could try emulate an Atari ST using CaSTaway/Palm, and then dig up one of the Mac emulators for the ST to run inside of that (Spectre GCR or something?)...
I'd expect a terrible slide show though (if it even works at all).

@galaxis @ajroach42 Spectre GCR had some hardware IIRC, and had the ROM offboard?

That said, I wouldn't actually expect performance to suffer compared to the base Atari ST emulation - Spectre GCR was more of a paravirtualization solution than an emulation solution.

@galaxis @bhtooefr Hah! I can't imagine that working well, or being enjoyable.

I'm less interested in being able to run a mac emulator than I am in having a simple environment to which I can deploy small programs. With the mac emulator, I'd run hypercard. It'd be a few steps from perfect, but I think it'd work, if the software existed.

Since it doesn't appear to, I'll explore other options.

There are AtariST and Amiga emulators.

It feels like a Mac Emulator is within the realm of possibility, but I haven't found any evidence of one yet.

https://web.archive.org/web/20061018033129/http://www.codejedi.com/shadowplan/castaway.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20070703190228/http://www.metaviewsoft.de/en/Software/PalmOS/Freeware/MyUAE/index.html

So those things are neat.

No idea how well they work, but I'll find out.

@ajroach42 there’s a port of vMac to DOS, and of DOSBox to Palm!

@SpindleyQ IIRC, the DOSBox Palm port was barely functional.

But it's been 10 years, and I could be mistaken.

Still, I imagine the performance there would be abysmal.

Of course, I have to try it, provided I can find DOSBox for Palm.

@ajroach42 I *think* spouse found Mac emulators somewhere for pre-OS X stuff. I’ll try to remember to ask him.

@gannet there are some good ones for PCs. Mini vMac, sheepshaver, and basilisk come to mind.

But I haven’t found one for the palm ecosystem yet.

@ajroach42 aha, I think I was thinking of the ones for PC. Sorry!

@RussSharek Less useful things, unfortunately.

@ajroach42

I kind of expected the "old and busted" internet to provide you with more useful answers about old and busted technology. :)

@RussSharek I mean, I'm digging through geocities archives and archive.org right now.

And I'm finding a lot of references to software, but not a lot of software.

So I guess I know what I'm doing with my neocities page.