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My programming language is better than yours 

My programming language is better than yours 

My programming language is better than yours 

My programming language is better than yours 

My programming language is better than yours 

My programming language is better than yours 

My programming language is better than yours 

My programming language is better than yours 

My programming language is better than yours 

My programming language is better than yours 

My programming language is better than yours 

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@Wolf480pl @cjd @freakazoid @dazinism The balkanization of Balkan could be viewed more directly as evidence that people *believe* ethnostates to be more stable. But as social constructs are built on feedback loops, that may very well turn out to mean that they are, in fact, more stable. πŸ˜€

As I understand it though, the main problem with Yugoslavia was that the unifying force and idea was a personality cult around Tito, and the disintegration following his death was slower than might have been expected. A multi-ethnic state forged without force and with a more sustainable unifying idea than one person would stand a better chance.

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But to have a unifying force, don't you need common values? And once you have common values, doesn't it become a single culture?

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I'm a bit pessimistic on the future of the EU because the US, with a single common language and national back story, still at some point it almost disintegrated and was only saved by a brutal show of force. Also the north and south have gravitated into the blue team and the red team who still fight like cats and dogs.
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@Wolf480pl @dazinism @cjd @clacke Specific values need to be shared. "Culture" is not a binary thing; you don't either have a single or different cultures. You have sets of values with different levels of compatibility. There are also values that are required to live with people who don't have all the same values as you. These values tend to develop over time as groups with differnt values live alongside one another.

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Hunter gatherers and agrarians 

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@freakazoid @cjd @dazinism The thesis to me seems to be that everyone keeps saying that currency replaced barter, but in reality this has never been observed, rather barter occurs where currency has been in use but then failed.

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