@freakazoid the funniest thing about devices like this is that they have the ergonomics of a boulder falling onto your hand.

I'm looking at you ZX Spectrum keyboard.

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It mostly has to do with design limitations of pocketable computers. If you're trying to use the keyboard for typing for more than just a couple minutes at a time, you're going to run into problems.

Looking at the specs of the computer, the screen is a bit over 7 inches wide. I'm going to say that the keyboard is just a bit wider than the screen, so we'll go with 8 inches wide.

I just measured my own keyboard, which is a standard size 100% layout keyboard, across from the tab key to the enter key and came up with 11 inches.

The keyboard is not only a 65% keyboard, meaning it has 35% less keys, which doesn't actually matter that much as long as functions can be relocated and still be usable, but the key width is around 25% to 30% reduced. This forces your hands closer together when typing, known as wrist pronation. Bad damage to wrist tendons and nerves can result.

see the first picture here for reference: kinesis-ergo.com/solutions/key

As well, having such a small keyboard forces you to bring your elbows and arms in close to be able to type, which can lead to upper back posture problems.

I don't think it's a bad device, I don't know enough about it to make that kind of judgment, but I know that the limitations inherent to the "pocket computer" design cause somewhat unavoidable ergonomics problems.

Abandoning the idea of an all-in-one device, with integrated keyboard, it's certainly possible to overcome these ergonomic problems.

What I'd go for, in a mobile computing setup, is a split keyboard in a small form factor that matches the size of the screen. I think it would be totally doable to use something like this: reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboar

Depending on intended use case, that might not work out so well, though. Having a pair of half-keyboards that you need to pull out and set up sort of interrupts the workflow of a pocketable computer, where part of the point is that you can just pull it out and use it.

On the other hand, you could go with both; have the integrated keyboard for short bits of use, but in any case where you'd be using it long enough for ergonomics to become an issue, pull out the split keyboard and set it up.

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@Anarkat Oh! I didn't realize how small it is. Indeed, the keyboard is 7.48" wide. I think the smallest keyboard I'd want to use on a regular basis would be a Planck, which is 9.2" wide. So maybe something more like this thing:

reddit.com/r/cyberDeck/comment

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@freakazoid that looks like a more comfortable size/spacing for a keyboard.

@Anarkat I've been thinking of some designs with a split keyboard with a screen in the middle. But I'm guessing it wouldn't be great for one's neck to have to look down at the screen.

@freakazoid I bet you could get some kind of hinge setup where the screen is double hinged; in its compact form it's thin, wide, and not very tall, and for sitting down for extended use, the screen pops up on double hinges to go from laying flat to being raised up and facing towards to user.

@Anarkat Ooh, I like that! Several of the cyberdeck designs I saw had screens raised up on arms. I didn't notice if any of them were designed to lay flat as well.

@Anarkat I like it! And the screen can be flush while leaving plenty of room for the hinge!

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